SMA Tripower Smart inverter, BMS integration

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Hi, i have a SMA sunny Tripower Hybride inverter.
This inverter is compatibel whit HV battery only.
Approved battery list:
BYD HVM 11.0-22.1 ( Max 25A)
BYD HVS 5.1-12.8 ( Max 30A limited by SMA)
LG Resu Flex 8.6-17.2 ( Max 22A)
And other less known brands.

I did by an WatchMon Core + 5 Celmate K9 + Shuntmon 500A.

Now i have problems setting up the Can bus communication to the SMA inverter.
The SMA inverter checks the first 5 minutes after power up for the connected BMS, the battery type ( and BMS) is not having settings to be set, these are read from Canbus.

Now i did try the following protocols:
Project Lychee ( LG RESU simulation)
Reserved 33 for ( Pylon HV simulation)
Reserved 40 for ( BYD HVS simulation)
Now non of them seem to be abel to communicate whit my inverter.
Some protocols give a Rx counter increasing so CANbus wiring is correct.
And setting Remote settings " to default
And after rebooting WatchmonCore and my SMA inverter there is no correct communication.

I did the FW update of the Watchman core and i have set the Celmate K9 in simulation mode as i have not yet bought the battery cells. ( First check that the BMS is capable of working whit my SMA inverter)

I would like to get my BMS system running the “BYD HVS 5.1-12.8 ( Max 30A limited by SMA)” .
Can someone assist me whit my required settings ?
I am strongly doubting on the Canbus " Base Address", Remote Address, Group Address.

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Hi Koen,

We’ve just received a protocol document that suggests SMA have requested special treatment from the BMS for the Tripower.

We are working on a beta release that incorporates the new protocols into our next major software release 55.

Please email us at info@batrium.com so we can send you a link to test the new profiles. Include a Manual Extract so we can check your CANBUS settings too:
SUPPORT - Manual Extract Report | Batrium Knowledge / Wiki

Keen to get your new system up and running :slight_smile:

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Thanks for the information.
I did send an e-mail.

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Hi all,
is there already any news available? I am also using a SMA Tripower Smart Energy and would like to run it with the batrium cellmate(s) and mom.

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Hi,
Its not yet working for me.
I did get the alpha release for Build 56, which contains the Tripower profile.
But even whit this one i don’t get it to communicate.

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Hmm, which converter are you using? I’ve the SMS STP 10.0 SE in Operation.

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I am using the SMA STP 5.0 SE.
I am trying to get the Batrium BMS to communicate whit the SMA before i buy the batteries.
The BMS is having a “simulation” mode where it simulates the batteries.

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Thanks for the update. Are you still in contact with the batrium developers?
I ordered already a first set of 16 cells to get familiar with the cellmate and mon. My fallback would be using a SMA Sunny Island which should be working with batrium.
Please keep me posted!

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Hi Koen, everyone else.

We have put together a beta protocol for the Tripower based on bits and pieces we have gathered (SMA themselves do not publish it). It appears that we are not there yet judging from user feedback.

We have contacted SMA, but have not heard back yet. I will keep this thread updated with our progress on that front.

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Hi James,
is there something we could support to solve the issues together?

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Hi everyone,

are there any updates on that topic. I’m looking forward to buy an inverter/BMS combination and the batrium would be very attractive…

Cheers

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It is still not working in simulation mode.
SMA is not supporting for a solution, so it even might be that it will never work.

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Bonjour
Quelqu’un a il réussi à faire fonctionner la communication car même avec la dernière mise à jour toujours rien ne fonctionne !